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PostSubject: Changing...   Sat May 24, 2008 6:40 am

Well owing to the fact that my water is pretty much perfect for cichlids I think I will change from general tropicals to shell dwelling cichlids....

Firstly what do you think?

Secondly I am going to have to totally change my tanks internal setup (will this mean another cycle? or could I do it without?)

Thirdly what do i need to get to replace the substrate and any other items as I will be removing bogwood, plants, ornament.
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PostSubject: Re: Changing...   Sat May 24, 2008 9:29 am

Ooh, Munchy's the one to ask about that GD, she's the expert on all things cichlid.

I think it's a good idea though. I cant remember what fish you have, but what are you going to do with the none cichlid ones you have?

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PostSubject: Re: Changing...   Sat May 24, 2008 8:58 pm

Only one species of shellies per tank means it limits your choice a bit.

For some profiles you need to be looking at Tanganyikan Shelldwellers. The most common seem to be:

Multies
Ocellatus
Similis

This is a good site for profiles. I use this site then google the scientific name from there

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PostSubject: Re: Changing...   Wed May 28, 2008 7:33 pm

could I not have a few other cichlids? or would 2 fish be it?
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PostSubject: Re: Changing...   Fri May 30, 2008 3:18 am

They look fascinating fish. I guess you will have to change the substrate to sand as reading about some of them they do bury themselves in sand, and you need to provide them with some shells to.

By the look of it GD you can add some other fish as long as they are not predatory, but wait for Munchy to confirm that (or otherwise).

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PostSubject: Re: Changing...   Fri May 30, 2008 6:25 am

Here is some info on Multis (Neolamprologus multifasciatus)

Multis are harem breeders, so you can have more than 2.

Here is some general info regarding Tanganyikan shelldwellers

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PostSubject: Re: Changing...   Sat May 31, 2008 4:19 am

is this necessary:

Cichlid Additives (Cichlid Buffer, Cichlid Salts, Cichlid Trace Elements)

I am seriously thinking about changing as my water atm is ideal for them I would just need the PH to increase which I assume removing the Bogwood and adding the crushed coral sand would boost it.

However I dont want a tank with 2 fish in it LOL!

Firstly would all the plants I have? and all ornaments? and replace with just shells?


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PostSubject: Re: Changing...   Sat May 31, 2008 5:03 am

Also how would I be able to do a change overwithout loosing any bacteria or having to recycle?
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PostSubject: Re: Changing...   Sun Jun 01, 2008 8:30 am

They look like lovely fish to keep, just change the subtrate to sand and chuck in some escargot shells and they'll be fine Very Happy
As for the bacteria thing I dont know, im a bit worried about that aswell( i wanna change from gravel to sand)!
Although if your that worried about losing Bacteria then change the sub to VERY fine gravel but sand is def better.
Yea changing the Ph would be good as i think they like alki water ranging from about 7.5-9
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PostSubject: Re: Changing...   Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:12 pm

GD what is you pH now (with bogwood) ? Adding a bag of coral sand/gravel will help boost the pH. My africans are in pH of 7.6 (too low if you read up on them)
We can't get our pH to stay up & be stable so it's left alone. We add źtsp bicarb to each 10L of water when water changing. We have coral sand & 2 big bags of it in the external filters.
It's better to be a bit low & stable than fluctuating & shocking the fish Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Changing...   Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:39 am

Good choice! Looked at these before but never had time to sit down to and plan a tank!! Some great links above from MC as always and i have heard tehy are very rewarding fish Smile The one thing with them is tehy will limit your choice being one species per tank, but there are some amazing shellies. Decor is interesting to with rocks, shells (obviously) and little plants, i think setups like taht are great and cant wait for posts and pics Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Changing...   Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:44 pm

change of plan now matty. Razz sticking with what I got now Killifish can be added Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Changing...   Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:43 am

Killifish just as nice Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Changing...   Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:38 am

they are evil to my poor cockatoos
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PostSubject: Re: Changing...   Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:20 am

Just read the thread Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Changing...   Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:04 am

but they have been stuck in a species only. However I may try adding a shrimp into it Really do like the look for the cherry shrimp or the fan shrimps are nifty!. who knows?! Razz

Ill get a pic of Killi tank tomorrow
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